i think you'll see something similar now an education, especially in higher education. the oligarchy of the education society is about to collapse, partly due to the internet where people are learning in more different ways from other people. about progressic there over the next 10 or 20 years. host: this is from the atlantic magazine -- he said, "in the last decade, even the places where republicans wanted to spread liberty, but turned into a debacle. they had dubious notion of what the military could accomplish. they fail to execute. is stubbornly denied anything was amiss. as a result, republicans, especially ne-yo conservatives, lost the trust of american voters." guest: i don't know what those places are. i guess most people were against fighting in afghanistan and we had a limited footprint over there for most of the bush administration. that was not the place where we pursued a neoconservative firm policy. the only place on iraq. one war in iraq which i will defend to this day, and which we succeeded. by the end of 2008 we had won the war, thanks to the troops su